I'd like to know which jockeys have been butchering rides and getting punters upset? I have 3 nominations. Nick Ryan: A bit over rated and very poor descision making. Dwayne Dunn: Ditto. Also Dan Nikolic: Always seems to get good horses into terrible postions, therefore not giving them their best chance of winning! Please let me know your opinions and who makes your "sack list".
Im a fan of Ryan but I do think his timing is not quite right at the moment. I am not a fan of Dunn but he has ridden some gems lately. He is the type of jockey that often rides for luck - and never seems to get it whenever my money is involved. Nikolic is an interesting one. When I think about it i guess he does seem to get his horses into trouble. That is just a lack of understanding the Victorian form I believe.
I must be backing the same Dunn rides as you then Money! Haha
Dunn/Freedman have around a 20% strike rate, but it is so difficult to get good prices about that combo, I find it impossible to follow them consistently and win. My mate calls Dunn "the new Beadman" but I think he is dreaming.
McEvoy is wearing thin with me. I will give him some time, but at the moment the other jockeys are playing with him. He consistently "misses the boat" when the others take off, and his horses are set impossible tasks.
Nikolic likewise. He can definetley ride, but he can murder them with the best. I hate to think about it, but Nikolic rode for a friend of mine recently and he was most disgusted with Dan RE not following instructions. A proffessional in the industry pointed out a recent ride of his to me as questionable, and provided evidence from the betting market to make his case. I don't like to think about dead rides, but as you guys both said, he can get a good horse into a bad position.
The only jocks I can think of that I have sacked permanently are the Cassidy's and K O'Hara
Brad Rawiller. He can only ride Weekend Hussler. Jay Ford. He can only ride Takeover Target.
Potting Brad Rawiller reminds me of Alan Robinson. A lot of people around Newcastle/Hunter Valley love having a go at Alan Robinson - they say he pulls horses up, that he can only win on favourites, etc. But each year he rides 150 - 200 winners, and maintains a very acceptable strike rate. If he stops pulling them up, maybe he can ride 300 winners at a strike rate of 3 hahaha
G.BOSS, rides the odd winner. hasnt done much since the diva and eremien. i know hes been in hong kong for abit but he just seems to not get the good rides he used to
You are right he`s hardly been in the country since the Diva Retired. he`ll get plenty of good ones over the carnival.
everyones favourite RS DYE has to go in here JAIPH... i swear every time i pick up the form guide and he is on one of mine~~~
My pocket loves Shane Dye from the 80s and 90s but these days is a shadow of his former self. He reminds me of when Mike Tyson when he fought Holyfield the last time, a sad old man hanging on too long.
Glen Boss is the most overrated muppet in the riding ranks in Australia, anyone could have ridden Makybe Diva. A little known fact is that Gai Waterhouse called his ride on Sebring a disgrace in the Golden Slipper and reckons had it been ridden properly he would have won by three pulling up. Let's also not forget that Glen Boss still claimed three kilos when he finished his apprenticeship, the sign of a dud.
Brad Rawiller is a handy rider but has no imagination or shows little intiative, he just cops it when caught wide, his work rate can't be faulted but his thinking in a race could be better.
Jaiphab, I agree with you to an extent about Nick Ryan but I think the bloke is more rusty than no good. He's only had about thirty rides in the metro area of Melb in the opening two months of the season. At Albury on Monday, his was going too early and not realising the straight was 400 metres long, he just needs racing.
This is what happens Chill.... You pick up the form guide, see a horse youve been following for a while and notice its struck the perfect race! Then your eyes glance over to look at the jockey and arrgghhhhh... its r.s.dye!!! After reminding yourself of your promise never to back a Dye ridden horse again, you start the dilemma.... What if this nag is good enough to win even with Dye on him and I miss out!!! Hahaha
Bit harsh on Brad Rawiller i thought Lilley. Before the Hussler phenomenon he was punching out winners day in day out in the country.
Dunn was the only jockey smart enough to get out and walk the track. Rock Home Late wouldnt have won if he didnt take the initiative to get to the rails. Then he walked in front on Electromotive, hugged the rails and kicked away.. As i said earlier, always rides well just never when my money is on..
Moneytalks, about 30% of those wins were courtesy of Dunn's initiative. The rest was due to the inside section of the track mowed about two and a half inches shorter than the rest of the course.
I also think both of those horses wouldve won anyway MONEY... regardless of any bias... they were both standoouts and DUNN on board just made me put more on them!!! 30% Dunns smarts to give both nags every advantage possible... 55% horse and maybe a length for the bias...
I dont care who the horse was, it wouldnt have won if Dunn hadnt walked the track, realised some idiot had mowed the inside near the rail, had the smarts to make sure he took his horses to sit in the fast lane and use the bias to his favour. Im not saying that on a non bias track that both Rock Home Late & Electromotive wouldnt have won, but Im damn sure if Dunn didnt take them to the rails on 'this' track they wouldnt have won! So for mine i credit those wins down to the jockey.. And as i said i dont seem to catch him but gotta give credit where credit is due fellas!!!!
Did anyone catch D Nikolic back to his old habits butchering two horses chances on the weekend? The worst of them was on arlington which should have finished much closer had he got it off the rail into some clear galloping room. Then in the very next race poor old instructor got dealt the same fate! This guy drives me crazy!
re Dr Whiz's comments on D.Nikolic, I hear what you're saying. The nickname for him amongst my circle of punting friends is "M...a Boy". I will not elaborate, other than to say there is/was a WA stakes race well named which ties into the theme.
Great ride on Rocha in the Wakeful mind you. I don't mind following him when riding for stable like G.Walter. I remember one day at Sandown a year or so ago he rode a young Princess Gisella way too far back. She steamed home to just miss @ $25s, a simple ride wouldve got her home.
Yeh Nikolic has being messing up the chances of alot of favourited runners lately. It's not just bad luck, there has been gaps and passages through and he just doesn't take them.
jockeys are like a carousel boys,they all come around at different times,butcher some here & there. they all have their turn & their mounts play a big part. the whole industry has its up's n downs & in & out's. we just have to be in the right place at the right time.
There is always ONE jock , i want to be on ( and a trainer friend of mine loves this tactic ...) the one , in financial distress ( often hard to find but a punting QLD jock comes to mind ...) or the favoured son -- looking to be redeemed ( Chris Munce falls in this category very very soon !!) 2 types of jockey NOT to SACK . !!