John Dillon Stakes
|1||BLUTIGEROO||Colin Little||Kerrin McEvoy||14||58.5||107|
|2||SCENIC SHOT||Daniel Morton||Jason Brown||5||58.5||107|
|3||RUBIJON||Colin Little||Peter Mertens||8||56.5||103|
|4||SAND SWEEPER (NZ)||John Wheeler||Vlad Duric||13||56.5||103|
|5||ART SUCCESS (NZ)||John Collins||Billy Egan (a)||10||56||102|
|6||ORBIT EXPRESS||Steve McKinnon||Steven King||2||55.5||101|
|7||LORDS RANSOM||Peter Morgan||Danny Brereton||7||55||100|
|8||ROK POSTA||Nikki Burke||Brad Rawiller||15||55||100|
|9||SCENIC SILVER||Peter G Moody||Dwayne Dunn||1||55||100|
|10||TIME MATTERS||Darren Weir||Steven Arnold||4||55||100|
|11||ZAGREB||David Hayes||Craig Williams||9||55||100|
|12||AMYJAYE POWER||Gary Kennewell||Craig Newitt||6||53.5||96|
|13||COUNT TO ZERO||Robbie Griffiths||Glen Boss||12||53.5||97|
|14||JUST LOOK||Lyn Tolson||Nicholas Hall (a)||3||53.5||96|
|15||COHORT||Peter Morgan||Darren Gauci||16||53||95|
|16e||ROYAL LAKES||Terry Kelly||Daniel Moor||11||53||94|
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lol.....I think OE would beat him anyway, remember the old saying barriers win races!
I've already gone large on the $6.50 goldenwing and tomorrow and I’ll lay it back on Betfair, hopefully at around $4... I love making profit before the race even begins!
Heard them interview her on TVN before a race today at Ballarat and they asked about Rok Posta's chances, she said he wont be running tomorrow, something about a hoof or foot injury. Interesting to note that TAB fixed have it at $8.
I took the $6.50 this morning for ORBIT, even with scratchings if you like the horse your better off taking him now as his starting price will be shorter than his fixed price minus deductions.... Now all the horse has to do is win... TIME MATTERS is the danger
yeh Time Matters will be up on the pace with OE from gate 4.
Orbit Express is he the most consistent horse running in his last 18 starts he has had:
6 Wins 4 Seconds 5 Thirds 1 Fourth 1 Fifth 1 Sixth
He pays his way for sure.
Below is how my ratings see the race. I'll be having the following trifecta: 2,6,10/2,6,10,13,14/2,6,9,10,12,13,14.
6 Orbit Express 30
2 Scenic Shot 34
10 Time Matters 36
13 Count to Zero 45
14 Just Look 46
12 Amyjaye Power 51
9 Scenic Silver 53
1 Blutigeroo 54
11 Zagreb 56
15 Cohort 57
7 Lord Ransom 58
16 Royal Lakes 62
4 Sand Sweeper 65
3 Rubijon 66
5 Art Success 67
you sure rok posta is getting scratched come in from 8 to 7 in racetab fixed odds.
Kagan, Im sure people would be more interested in what your going to be doing tommorow!!! Maybe you could explain it a little further!!
They call it trading GD. Back them at the top of the market and lay them at the bottom......hopefully, taking a guaranteed % every time.
Simply back Orbit Express for $100 at the $6.50 on offer with Centrebet - Then he should firm tomorrow meaning you can hopefully lay him off on Betfair at around $4.00 for $150 - This will make you $50 profit no matter what the outcome. If you have the money multiply your bet amounts by 10 and you've made $500 guaranteed. You may need to take into account deductions for scratchings and a bigger lay price but it's just a matter of a few quick calculations. Good Luck!
yes dr. whiz, you need to be betting large amounts to make it worth while! hecne my apprehesion! But I must admit its hard to wrap your head around!!
Kagan is exactly right. It's very simple really. Betfair regularly run courses to show you how to do this. Give them a call to see when they next run one. Lots of us have been doing this for over a year, and it's money for jam.
seems to be alot of discussion/opinions/bets on this race so i'll have my say on each horse,
blutigeroo- last in the run from barrier, will run on late but not figure, thats all they'd want over this distance. NO CHANCE
scenic shot-settle midfield from handy barrier behind orbit expres and run on. PLACE CHANCE
rubijon- nice horse, settle worse than midfield, make late ground, wouldnt expect anymore. PLACE CHANCE
sand sweeper- will do whatever it takes to find lead or therabouts from wide barrier, no sprint at finish. NO CHANCE
art success- at the back with blutigeroo, make ground late but wont figure. NO CHANCE
orbit express- sit in behind time matters from gr8 barrier, peel off its back on straightening and chase down leaders. TOP 2
lords ransom- overated horse. ?
rok posta- will cross with sand sweeper and prob take a sit, may have to burn abit early and lack sprint at the end, then again may not run at all because of barrier not injury. PLACE CHANCE if it runs
scenic silver- settle midfield on the rails, dunn will decide if the horse will win or not, either try an inside run or switch and track orbit and time matters on straightening. TOP 3
time matters- will get run of the race in behind sand sweeper and rok posta. will hopefully gain a run on straightening and try to outsprint orbit and silver. TOP 2
zagreb- settle worse than midfield, will fly late.PLACE CHANCE
amyjaye power- frog will trail zagreb or vice verca, both will fly late.PLACE CHANCE
count to zero- will follow previous 2 horses may not go with them in the straight. NO CHANCE
just look- settle handy from barrier, will go with orbit express.PLACE CHANCE
cohort-who knows with the Gauc on board. ?
royal lakes- out classed but will beat a few home.
based on that my tri is- 6,9,10/ 6,9,10/ 2,3,6,8,9,10,11,12,14
$42 = %100
'amyjaye power' needs a spell...she is dangerous when right but has had a tough campaign to an fro from adel to melb...i think she will lack dash here & hasnt been finishing off like she normally does...she's at the end of her teather for mine....just can't go past 'orbit express'
You get all the scratchings here first at PP... We told you about Rok Posta 18 hrs ago..
Orbit now $5 fixed with Centrebet
Been betting for years and have only just come across this lay betting, heard about bookies doing it but not on offer to the g/public, so basically on Kagan's post by getting $6.50 @ $100 & by laying on Betfair at a lower price say $4 for $150 if it wins you get $650 but your lay costs you $450 profit of $100 if it loses you drop your $100 but get $150 from the lay bet profit $50 is this right or am I right off the track?
Lay bet $150 x 4 = $600 - Win bet $100 x $6.50 = $650 - win or lose you make $50. Do this with a win bet of $1000 and a lay bet of $1500 and you've made $500 guaranteed. It's called a green book. We'll put together some webinars for this and some other Betfair tricks on our new betting page, which is coming soon. For now please feel free to give me a call if you want me to explain things further.
Thanks Kagan, the bet still is, I guess, that you want your pick to firm, if it goes the other way your stuck with you straight out bet.
That's right, if it goes the other way you are in trouble. If you get it wrong your best to lay it back quickly for the same amount and cut your losses. Also IN-PLAY betting is sometimes where you get the best opportunities to do this. For example last night in the tennis the players figures often change from $1.50 to $3.00 or more throughout the match. Try backing both players for $100+ when their odds are better than $2 and you can't lose.
ORBIT EXPRESS getting smashed on all totes lads,,good thing we got the price when ROKPOSTA was still in the market !!
There is a fine example of being signed up to 4 different bet types,,it allows you to shop around.CENTREBET had 1-2 points longer the rest for OE last night,'great value'.its up to the horse now
Kagan, this gets more interesting by the minute, I will have to have a close look on Betfair to get my head around it all.
Similar to my approach on multi betting with AFL matches when all but last leg are up. Take the appropriate $amount on the team you don't have in the last leg to ensure a small profit as opposed to losing your entire original stake.
andytaker does it again
My three Trifectas in post above, cost me $260 after Rok Posta was out
got me back $1200,
And further more I laid Orbit Express for both win and place, a good day
pretty much spot on with my assesment of each horse. sand sweeper surprised abit, but with rok posta out it made it a bit easier for him. orbit dissapointing but well done to those who layed him and made a profit and well done ANDYTAKER great tri! only wish i hadve put yours on instead of mine:)
Sand Sweeper you ripper! Loved the run.